Curious White Muhfucka Wonders if TLRNY Hates Him
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Dear Nigga Know,
There’s got to be one white guy out there that you like or at least one you can put up with. Or is it one of those, “The only good white guy is a dead white guy” kind of things?
- White Motherfucker
What’s goodie my white nigga. This my first advice response so Imma try to be as open and as fucking honest as TLRNY always been and how you knows him to ALWAYS motherfucking be.
Niggaknow don’t got a problem with every white dude out there, so don’t get it fucking twisted. But I do got a motherfucking problem with certain types of these motherfuckers for certain reasons, yunderstandwhat I’m saying. So Imma present you racially-curious, freckled marshmallow-fluff-colored, oatmeal and blueberry muffin eating, scarf wearing, Time Out New York perusing, VW driving, Bravo watching guilty white niggas (I know 1/3rd of ya creamy motherfuckers is on this site because you was ‘Googling’ for a new hip apartment in East Harlem so you can explore Puerto Rican culture to better ya boring ass Oregon-raised lives) with three of the types of motherfuckas I hate and the types I don’t fucking mind one bit. Then in a few days on Imma hit you with more. You knows the ratio is gone be unbalanced like the number of wonderbread-white/hebrew actors to the number of positive black leading men in Hollywood. (Don’t be saying Morgan Freeman. Even when a black man plays motherfucking God in Bruce Almighty, that nigga is only a SUPPORTING ROLE).
1) Number 1 is them white people that be “Slumming It”.

I know ya feel like you urban and that you can connect with the black community. I mean, you been living in New Yawk for, what, four years of your 26 years, when you done grew up in Wisconsin? Damn nigga you REAL urban. I know you feels like you poor, cuz daddy cut your monthly rent payments when you done turned 25, and being a motherfucking grad student don’t get you much paper since you be writing a thesis on the religious poetry of homosexual niggas living in Harlem in 1927. I know you feels like you can live in Harlem in an apartment that some grandma prolly lived with a bunch of lil niggas who balls aint even dropped and they was harder than you, because you really feel African American culture and ain’t the usual republican white people that be hating negroes like ya mom and pops. But where the fuck that grandma go now? These white people is what I call faggots who “slum it.” Go uptown to Harlem and see these queers on every motherfucking stoop you see nigga.
2) Number 2: American N1gga said it, Imma fucking say it. These is these faggot “rocker”/”hipster” white folks that is trying too motherfucking hard (TTMFH).

It is unfortunate that you got a boring ass Hebrew name like Rebecca or Daniel a boring ass Wasp name like Allison or Collin. But you really gotta try that hard to create an identity by wearing striped shirts that make you look like retarded - like seriously fucking retarded, like you fucking born with half your skull missing and you gotta wear a motherfucking bicycle helmet with some Lisa Frank shit smacked on the side? Then you hanging out in Brooklyn talking greasy like you wasn’t born in a white picket community? Cmon nigga. Then as you can see in this photo you got your one ‘Afro American’ friend so now you the pinnacle of activism. Nigga please. That nigga as black as Tiger be a sleepyhead.
3) Number 3: Cmon nigga. I gotta say this again? How many times I gotta bring this up?

Look at this fucking photo. Couple white boys doing some gay shit but acting like they hard. Check. Shell necklace. Chea. Nasty ass fucking beer. Whooo face + two fingered hand signs? Nah but I bet you a grip these niggas did that shit for they next photo.
So who is that one white motherfucker that I wouldn’t want to see thrown the fuck off the roof of Queensbridge Houses? There a few, nigga there a few. But off the top of a nigga fitted, lemme see. Oh yeah, prolly this nigga: Bruce Willis.
More next time you faggot ass niggas.

















you win nigga..lmao@ me on the train dying so loud..i made some white niggas baby in a $10000000000000 dollar Mclaren stroller cry…
We run this shit nigga..
A.N.
There are few white mother fuckers worth hanging out with. They usually the quiet ones that don’t got too many people they hang out with, and they don’t go around acting stupid for all to see, they don’t follow trends, and they would go out of they way to help someone in need even if they don’t know the person.
I know about 3 or 4, the rest of them you wouldn’t even see me give any time in the day or night for.
Dustin and Logan might be cool guys. You never know.
But, good post. I hate those faggot ass hipster kids as well.
White people bother the hell out of me. I can’t decide if I hate the ‘Whoooo, you ma brah!’ college faggots or the fat, union working ‘they took [my] job,’ I have a beard so I’m tough as shit hicks, more.
I can’t stand niggas like Kanye West though either. He grew up privelaged as hell in the suburbs from what I know; yet he ‘raps,’ if you can call it that, about being gully. He dresses like a faggot, has no talent and makes Tupac turn in his grave.
White Guy, stop being such a kiss ass. I don’t care if TLRNY is right or not. You can’t show him he’s right. You’re doing it all wrong.
Damn… Harlem has turned like that? Gentrification is a mothafucka… Check this, I was living in Cali for a sec and I met this white braod… had no intentions of getting at her, we’re just at a bar and I we’re talking about bullshit. She must have drank all of her ghetto juice because if it weren’t for the flaking skin from sitting her dumb ass in the sun, i’d swear I was talking to Lil Kim. Any, I’m talking with the broad and my guy and this mothafucka calls me whitewashed.
Here’s a quick background: Uncle is NOI, mother was a black Panther, Great Grandfather founded first black church in Summit, IL… I co-founded an organization called Young Men About Achievement, I am the Program Administrator for an organization that helps black children that are the victims of sexual abuse - how the fuck can some franken berry face, hanger for lips, white bitch call me whitewashed… I still hit - for the credit.
I have a problem with white people trying so damn hard to act black… I feel like Coconut Sid at times: “You black? We black. Open your eyes, motherfucka”
Of course the shit hilarious. What the fuck else you gonna expect from TLRNY. On some real talk, white motherfuckers always trying to argue and apologize at the same time to make they motherfucking point. Its some motherfucking shit that stay going unexposed until this motherfucking site come about and niggas like TLRNY, AN, M1, TNG burn you niggas with that textual heat.
White bitches ain’t always females, yah mean?
-1-
TLRNY,
As always you got the genius on tap. I swear you cats should get together and write a book. (Top Seller) It’s sad we live in a society where people like this (the article) think that they are “cool” or whatever you want to call it.
I live in a city that wasn’t shit and now, 10 years later, it’s all rich, snot nosed, pompous fucks EVERYWHERE. These people think their shit doesn’t stink and they are hot shit, when they are NOT shit. That’s what’s funny about it. I love boastful self absorbed assholes.
What’s best is you don’t even have to talk shit. These people are a walking JOKE, about as real as a counterfeit bill. Fucking assholes.. and what is with the white girls getting so slutty nowadays? These breezies started this trend I tell ya. Now the slut is the way of the walk, trying to be “cool” and fit in when she is about as smart as a fucking rock.. right next to the frat (oh wait these motherfuckers aren’t even smart enough to go to college) dudes wearing the sandals ALL the fucking time looking like they need to be bitch slapped back to their downstairs basement area that they live in alone cause mom and dad live on the other 2 levels in a upper class all white sierra club asshole community.
And they are always in competition with each other.. gotta see who is the shit and act like they got a fucking problem when someone different walks in the pool hall or bar or even the fucking restaurant threatening their “style”. I swear the insecurity is just seething while their transparent personalities fold like a wal-mart lawn chair. Faggots.
Let’s talk about these stuck up ass white people that think they shit don’t stink. These fuckers, this includes all races to be honest, are full of shit. Little do they know but I could kill them on the spot, I could rob them on the spot, I could kidnap them on the spot. It don’t matter what it is, I could do it right there to them. They aint gonna stop me, even though they think they on top of the world. This is the thing I don’t get about white people. I guess if you lived in a small world of always being on top you feel invincible, but in all truth it makes you vulnerable to the truth. The truth meaning my fists blazing as fast as they can in a mother fuckers face while I beat them down and take they money.
My favorite thing in the world is to watch a crime happen and you see shocked rich ass white mother fuckers faces. It’s like you upset they damn world. So who weaker now?? I seen people get shot, stabbed, beat, poisoned, ran over. You name it I seen it. Not to mention I’ve beat down mother fuckers and got beat down back. I’ve seen 12 year old kids smoking crack in alleys, I’ve seen women go for a hit of some crack with they 5 year old child with them. I’ve gotten shot at, I won’t say if I shot at someone though. I’m not saying this shit makes me better, I’m just saying this shit has made me stronger and more wise as to what is happening in the world….where these rich ass stuck up mother fuckers do not know what is going on. Where they get shocked, I feel calm.
This is my problem with white people who lived they sheltered ass lives. It don’t matter how much gold, baggy clothes, or how much slang they use…they will never understand what it is to live in some hard conditions. This is why I have problems with white people acting like they black or latin, other than the fact that a fake ass mother fucker that got to act like they something other than where they came from is a lying mother fucker anyway.
I’M sorry I’m going to end this now, because I could go on for days about this shit. This is the shit that pisses me off.
Amen.
The least motherfuckers could do is be white and not apologize for that shit instead of runnin around in flat bill fitteds trying hard as a sumbitch to thug in a hand me down SeanJohn hood. Cant run around in some Rainbow flip flops with a shell necklace on and start droppin “nigga” on your white friends and think that shit is aight either though.
Attention white people. Get the fuck over it, your white, deal with that shit.
TLRNY has a universal message: stop acting like faggots. This shit is going on in black communities (”Rock Star” skittles looking motherfuckers) and in white communities (homoerotic frat-boys named Brett yelling woooo all the time, or those tight-pantsed “artsy” motherfuckers who stay pussy). I don’t care what race you are, stop acting like a bitch and you’ll get respect.
Word up, dawg. I can’t stand mothafuckas that be talkin all that shit about how they “liberal” and shit, then when you see where they live, who they fraternize with, and blase blase, you get the feelin’ that these mothafuckas are fuckin schiz. They seriously have some fucked up mental shit going on.
“I love black people!” Yeah, mothafucka ain’t never even spoke to a nigga. Cept this one time…should I divulge this shit to my NiggaKnow niggas? Should I? Fuck it, lemme tell you a story.
I’m sittin here in line in the cafeteria at college a few years back, right. And this stupid ass, stank ass, always gotta say “liek, liek, liek” between every got damn word, this fuckin’ ugly as hell yet thinks I want her moose ass for some reason…basically, this nasty ass white slutty lookin creature is behind me, and she sees me reachin’ for a slice of cheeze pizza. Now check this shit, this mothafuckin shit, the fuck out. The bitch jumps in front of me as I’m reaching for the pizza…and fuckin’ takes the pizza I’m attempting to place on my plate. I look at the bitch like “Is you for real?” She turns around as if I’m a ghost or some shit, right.
On the ass of her “I might as well have worn underwear” shorts are the words, per cheek, “SO HOT”. “Whoops, do these shorts really say that? Oh, tee hee!”
Ostentatious bitch.
Now, normally John Dane don’t get pissed at petty ass bullshit like this. Why waste time and energy fuckin’ up a bitch, when I could just fuck a bitch? Naamean? But in this case, that ho fucked up, because….damn it, I wanted that got damned pizza. A nigga was hungry as fuck, mayn, and that was the last got damned slice. I mean, they had pepperoni and shit, but a nigga don’t eat that swine, dawg. More on that later… But anyway, yeah. So I grabs the bitch and says, I says to her, “Bitch, gimme that fuckin pizza, ho, befo I BEAT CHO ASS” She looks at me and says, “Look, nigger. Liek, you better fuckin’ leave me alone. I, liek, know your kind. You fuckin’ nigger! Nigger nigger nigger. Nigger. Liek, I usually don’t have a problem with you niggers, because, liek, you know, liek, liek, liek, liek, liek, liek, liek….”
I think that ho was malfunctionin’ or some shit like that. So I smacked her upside the head, you know, like you would a pop machine (YEAH MOTHAFUCKA I SAID “POP”). “Oh, shit! Liek, sorry! Anyway, liek, you better leave me the fuck alone, you black motherfucker. I’m liberal, and I have tons of black friends. I love black peeepaaaahhl. But you niggers…you niggers are, liek, a totally different story. Why don’t you go back to Africa or some some shit like that?”
After hearing that fuckin’ BULLSHIT, I was as red as a fuckin’ Mastadon takin a big ass constipated SHIT in a dinky ass yellow Port-a-potty. That’s right, niggas. So what a nigga do? Well, shit, I took one look at my WWAND? (What Would A Nigga Do?) wristband, and the shit OWN. I flipped! I took out my fuckin Dragon Ball Z Trunks Katana, went Super Saiyan Nigga, and I FUCKED THAT BITCH UP. I fucked that bitch up so hard mothafuckas around her started gettin fucked up, and I’m sure some Einstein/Heisenberg quantum mechanics shit can explain why but we’re not going to get into that shit right now. Shit, even the old server lady with one tooth who probably doesn’t realize she has one tooth since she’s always fuckin’ smilin, like =D =D =D. Fuck that bitch, yeah, she got fucked up too, always smilin’ at me like that, givin a nigga dick suckin’ nightmares and shit.
Uhh…ehem…
So anyway, I was busy fuckin this bitch up, just goin’ to WORK, I mean FUCKIN THIS BITCH THE FUCK UP, you feel me, like a real nigga, I mean I was blastin that bitch with fuckin’ fireballs and shit, I was mothafuckin Zangeif piledrivin’ that bitch, I was mothafuckin Tony Jaa on that bitch, sheeeeet, I was…I was fuckin’….I was fuckin’ pinchin’ her arm real hard and shit. Yeah. Imagine that shit. That HAD to hurt, huh?! You know how we do — straight thug, nigga!
So anyway, she got up and said some shit like, “Oh, no you didn’t, you nigger!” And she ate the pizza right in my face. I was sweatin and pantin’…. a nigga was *tired*, ya’ll.
Then…now ya’ll niggas ain’t gone believe this shit…but chyo….this bitch transformed into a got damn car and drove the fuck off! Blowin’ through shit, runnin’ niggas over and shit, stealin’ grilled cheese sandwiches, I mean the bitch just drove off like “Fuck a bitch!” I honestly thought the shit was dope as fuck, but a nigga didn’t say that shit, because just then, that dentally bankrupt banshee bitch came up with a fresh cheeze pizza.
…but anyway…yeah, that was some shit right? I know, happens everyday. But anyway…
So what I’m sayin’ is…
Mothafuckin white niggas always tryin to study different cultures and shit, but completely ignore the ones right in front of a mothafucka’s face.
That’s American white mothafuckas, though. I mean, compare these schizo ass white mothafuckas to these minority niggas, like this mothafucka right here…ya’ll NiggaKnow niggas always gettin’ on asians, but this nigga is the SHIT: http://www.garyokihiro.com/
I read a lot of his shit. Lemme tell you, this nigga Gary Okihiro is on point. This nigga KNOW. I recommend his shit to anyone tired of hearing white niggas try to analyze, categorize, qualify, quantify, and just fuck up reality.
But yeah, shit is ugly, mayn.
Great topic, as always. Ya’ll NiggaKnow niggas…sheeet, ya’ll niggas KNOW.
-John Dane
“Let’s talk about these stuck up ass white people that think they shit don’t stink. These fuckers, this includes all races to be honest, are full of shit. Little do they know but I could kill them on the spot, I could rob them on the spot, I could kidnap them on the spot. It don’t matter what it is, I could do it right there to them. They aint gonna stop me, even though they think they on top of the world.”
*daps*
Sorry for postin’ all this shit, niggas, but I just gotta say this. I know this shit ain’t nothin’ new, but…
I honestly think the problem is niggas too got damn complacent. If we really wanted to, we could own this bitch. But naall, niggas would rather fuck around, talkin’ shit about they “new album comin’ out” and how they want a nigga to cop that shit, or they head stuck up they religion, or they just out for the paper chase. Niggas don’t want to talk about this shit no more. Whites got us so fucked up, making us believe *we* caused all this shit to happen to us, like we’re genetically inferior or some shit…or better yet…remember that bell curve bullshit? That model minority hoax? Yeah…
There’s an enemy, and that shit can’t be denied. Niggas: STOP LETTING WHITE PEOPLE TELL YOU WHO YOU ARE. Stop letting them one-up you into thinking they haven’t done a got damn thing. They hate everyone that doesn’t look like them, have their beliefs, their customs. Shit, right now they tryin’ to keep Latinos out…fuck, I say let them in, let them storm in and run this bitch. Scare the shit out of these white capitalist-ass bitch mothafuckas. Especially after what Spain, Portugal, France, England, and them Dutch mothafuckas did to the Americaa, Asia, and Africa? And now they don’t want to take responsibility for that shit, yet steady claimin shit like they have a natural right to it, and people who were here FIRST ain’t got no business being here now?
Like these niggas at NiggaKnow say: “Fuck outta here.”
But don’t get me wrong. All us niggas got white blood in us, thanks to our rapist-ass ancestors. Same with latino niggas, asian niggas, all niggas around the whole fuckin’ globe. All of us got that white blood in us, and besides, race is really just a matter of phenotype shit anyway. So I ain’t sayin it’s “white people”, because that makes it toog vague. I’m talkin bout a specific mothafucka right here, so specific it’s like I got a got damned scope on him. I’m sayin it’s these mothafuckin smilin’ ass, nasty ass handshakin’ ass, Social Darwinist ass, stingy, hypocritical ass mothafuckas who claim they actually *earned* everything they have…then they try to fool you into thinking if you work hard you can achieve likewise success. Bull. Shit. I don’t give a damn what color they are, to be honest…they have that same rapist-ass Christopher Columbus “white” mentality, and they LOVE that shit. They thrive on on that shit.
Niggas just ain’t mad no more, dawg. Niggas is too got damn complacent.
What’s it gonna take, my niggas?
-John Dane
While we’re on the subject, if anyone is interested, I wrote an essay about this shit for my senior thesis in philosophy. I could email it to you, or post it here. Up to ya’ll niggas if ya’ll wanna read some academic type shit.
-John Dane
I got a headache man..so I’ll just keep it simple..throw down 4 advil and knock Styles P for the 2nd day in a row…
as plain as this is gonna sound..all of these “answers” we have dont mean shit unless the “problems” READ the shit..ima put the view of the NK writers on a similiar pedastil as a preachy activist nigga..we spit enough shit for yall niggas to debate on..yall the niggas that make US right or wrong…or at least able to be stomached you know…but ill speak for myself if anything..I ain’t tryin to be the Al Sharpton of the Internet..I ain’t gonna sit here and tell my niggas that were so wrong..but I will say AGAIN that we fucking up hard..and you don’t have to be some covert ops nigga to see that white mothafuckas are 75-90% of the problem..I’m not gettin all factual right now..I’m sayin if you share the view of this rampant dumb ass niggery per these chalkfaces outwitting us..pass the URL to the nigga next to you…ive showed at least 10 people a day this shit..most of em are the ones we been bangin on…EVERYBODY son…skittle boys…Jefferys..”black lovin” pastyfaces…that’s just me tho..basically put the word out and well hold shit down…i aint tryin to let the views to unstupify a niggas brain go to waste..neither are these wild ass (but informative) niggas on here b…
Dane..let me see it nigga..i was a philosophy major so ill breeze through it…good shit James…at least niggas come from a line of positivity..i aint gonna lie..i DIDNT…but same goal..i wasnt raised around that much positivity…but i know the 2 fundamental things i aint TRYIN to be..dead or in the slammer…and im JUST comin out of my wild phase..and you got me beat by 10 years…either way..at least we tryin to do shit for these castaway faggot niggas man..im just sick of seein that shorty with them butt grippin jeans from 75 yards back just to close the gap to find out its Shamar wearin some glitter drenched jeans with a bunch of Hannah Montana trinkets attached to him…
I aint sad for these niggas b..i wanna strangle them AND they source for inspiration…
TLRNY..you ain’t gettin ME fired nigga..you just kept the bleach mouths away from me for a solid week..good looking daddy..haha
@JD
Dawg, email your paper blaqueman1969@yahoo.com. There is a lot of complacency. I grew up in the hood but I only be real and say that I have never been thugged out, never smoked so me trying to front like I’m a grimy street nigga would be a lie. But I support my own because I know exactly what I am to the rest of the world.
But what’s up with the white freak that turned into a car and drove off… Whatever you were on that day, bottle it up and we’ll get paid up this piece.
Anyway, mainstream bastards (MSB) are fine as long as we are entertaining them… or providing material for their 24 hour cable news shows. Dane hit it on the head, niggas are complacent. Black folks owned property up and down Chicago’s lake front… let it go to waste…sold it to white developers thinking they hit the jackpot selling their shit hole for $100k and now are crying because that same land is now going for $350 only six years later. We could have developed that land… Chicago has black-owned banks and black construction companies.
Now the Jazz clubs are playing Kenny G tracks and there is a Forever 21 store opening in the shopping center. They are going to do what they are going to do… we just have to play the game on a different level.
Keep playing with those “Liberals” and they’ll have all our kids in special education classes pushing dreams of a getting a two year certificate.
Hahaha Kenny G. I swear I wish Miles Davis and Charlie Parker were still alive. Shit can’t forget Dizzy Gillespie. Damn I love that shit. Jazz LEGENDS.
AYE YO JD..I FEEL U ON DAT SHIT FAREAL 6UH SHIT IF DAT 6ITCH TOOK MY FUC^C^IN PIZZA I WULDA SLAPPED DAT 6ITC^H SO HARD DAT SHE DROPPED THA MUH FUC^C^IN PIZZA AN YUH JAMES RI DOE U MUST 6EEN ON SUM STRONG ASS SHIT THINKIN SHE TURNED IN 2 A MUH FUC^C^IN C^AR DOE..LI I DUN SAID THA WEED IS GETTIN STRONGA..LI U GOT NIGGAZ C^OMIN UP 2 U LI ‘AYE DIS WEED IS 10X STRONGA DEN THA WEED U 6OUGHT LAST WEEK’ SHIT NEXT THANG U KNO U GON 6 PUFFIN 3 6LUNTS AN 6 MO STUPID DEN THA MOST RETARDED NIGGA ON EARTH. REAL RAP
-S.K
My Advice:
White mothafucka, real talk… why do you give a damn how any of us feel about white folks? This is an open forum, if you agree… then state so.. if you disagree, then justify… it’s not anyone job to like you and its not your job to go out and be liked. Seriously, I’ve run into some racist in my day – do you think it ever crossed my mind to ask if there were at least one black person that they liked? Hell naaw… I didn’t and still don’t give a shit.
Shit, I might write some things that may provoke some nigga’s to get at me… I don’t give ah fuck. If you come to a blog called Nigga Know… then, nigga… you should know the deal. Black folks don’t pull punches so if you’re sensitive, this may not be the spot for you. Hell, I’m enjoying this shit. Maybe some good will come from it and you’ll see that those Main Stream Bastards promoting Coors Light, California Pizza Kitchen, Hold Hands Across America and X-treme sports are contributing factors as to why so many of you are fucked up in the head.
What about corporate america and the mind controlling psycho-babble media?
Soulja king I’m not reading that shit, write some fucking english b, we are educated niggas here.
TLRNY:
Souljaking’s writing look like the shout-out blurb unsigned niggas be scrawling on sleeve they wrapping around they freshly burnt demo cd-r.. incoherent ass nigga probably writing on some triplefolding doubleflip sleepyhead jack..
-1-
AYE TLRNY I AINT STARTIN NOTIN 6UH U TAWKIN SHIT 6OUT HOW I TYPE 6UH SHIT DIS AINT ENGLISH CLASS NIGGA
AIGHT SHIT SINCE YALL ASSES WANT COMPLAIN BOUT MY DAMM TYPIN LEMME REPOST DIS SHIT SO U CAN UNDASTAND IT SMFH…
“AYE YO JD..I FEEL U ON DAT SHIT FAREAL BUH SHIT IF DAT BITCH TOOK MY FUCKIN PIZZA I WULDA SLAPPED DAT BITC^H SO HARD DAT SHE DROPPED THA MUTHA FUCKIN PIZZA AN YUH JAMES RITE DOE U MUST BEEN ON SUM STRONG ASS SHIT THINKIN SHE TURNED IN 2 A MUTHA FUCKIN CAR DOE..LIKE I DUN SAID THA WEED IS GETTIN STRONGA..SHIT U GOT NIGGAZ COMIN UP 2 U‘AYE DIS WEED IS 10X STRONGA DEN THA WEED U BOUGHT LAST WEEK’ SHIT NEXT THANG U KNO U GON B PUFFIN 3 BLUNTS AN B MO STUPID DEN THA MOST RETARDED NIGGA ON EARTH. REAL RAP
-S.K”
THURR U GO NIGGA….HAPPY???
-S.K
“Soulja King V.S Shotty U.D.T”
It sounds like you’re named after some chickens in a cockfight.
i would like to read your paper though: thehoustongirl@gmail.com
Soulja King V.S Shotty U.D.T…
Turn your fucking caps lock off. No one wants to read that shit. Unless you are retarded. In that case, I am sorry for talking shit. Retards are people too.
My niggas,
Ya’ll know what, I see a few of ya’ll niggas want to read my paper, and I’m honestly flattered as fuck. =) So, I’m gonna just post it on here. I don’t even give a fuck if a nigga plagarize this shit, either, since ideas are free.
Aight, this is gonna be a big ass post, but bear with a nigga. At the beginning I wrote a little introduction, too. Oh, and the name of this bitch is “The Sexualization of Asians and Blacks by Whites Throughout History: An Etiology of Racism”. I know, the title ain’t all that intriguing, but shit, just listen to what a nigga has to say:
The Sexualization of Asians and Blacks by Whites: An Etiology of Racism
Dear Reader,
As I mulled over what I should write about for my senior Philosophy thesis, many topics naturally came to mind. Of them, the problem of hypocrisy shined the brightest, mostly because I had often written on “being true” during the course of my academic development. Soon, I came to realize that writing a thesis on such a broad subject was overly ambitious and fraught with countless integral encumbrances, rendering such a project unfeasible.
My next decision was to narrow my focus, and discuss a particular instance of hypocrisy, which I found to be “racism”. I do not hesitate when I say, “Racism is the most important issue in America today.” Our very capacity for racism, I believe, stems from our predilection toward hypocrisy. When I examine myself, I cannot help but notice how I seek to justify what I think and stand for, even if it is ignorance, prejudice, fear, or hatred. Most often, my “justification” serves as a pitiful excuse for my ineptitude, my inconsistency, my insecurity. Observing history, I feel not lonely, but rather crowded in this regard.
I began reading through some of my earlier philosophy papers, along with papers dealing with anthropological and sociological theories of racism. It came as no surprise that a lack of attention has been devoted to exactly how racism came to be. This paper, then, shall be an etiology of racism proper.
I do not intend to offend anyone when I mention “the racist White mindset”. It should be noted that I am specifically talking about racist Whites in history, and surely not the entire race — this would make me a racist, and in turn defeat the purpose of writing an essay on the subject. Many might argue, and rightly so, that Whites are not and have not been the only group capable of racism, both contemporaneously and historically, yet this essay will at least show how the construction of racism can be primarily attributed to them. In other words, while certain people from all walks of life might be considered racist, they owe their ideology to the racist White mindset. What is more, simply because Whites created the racist White mindset does not in any way mean it is exclusive to them. To some extent (perhaps a rather short one), we are all guilty of hypocrisy.
My aim is not to vilify the Whites of antiquity, but to evaluate their racist perceptions (and the consequences of those perceptions) of the two peoples most often pitted against one another in Western society: Asians and Blacks. Innumerable features of those old perceptions remain intact.
My last remark: These days, we can be sure that, thanks to genetics and various other schools, the concept of “race” is obsolete, at least de jure. While I agree with this, and shall explain how the concept was fabricated by men rather than imposed by natural law, I still believe the effects of the concept are indelible, and thus should be considered in all dimensions of relevant discourse.
Thank you very much for your time.
-John Dane
When most people think of Asians and Blacks in the United States, not much comes to mind in terms of commonalities. What is perhaps most obviously common between the two groups is that they share the minority status, which means there must indeed be a majority upon which this status is based — in this case, Whites. Whites have drawn from a wide history of racist stereotypes and ideologies to create a mindset that allows them to distance themselves from, and justify superiority over, these two groups. In this paper, I will focus on how the racist White mindset, regarding the respective sexual identities of Asians and Blacks, intersects with Whites’ racist perceptions of those groups altogether, as well as how this intersection is used to empower and justify White distance and superiority. Further, I will highlight some of the developmental history of this intersection so that the reader may understand its roots. As the reader will see, since Whites have used hyperbole and slander to sexualize different groups according to the necessities of any given juncture, this sexualization is more about convenience than truth.
The reason I decided to begin this essay by distinguishing majority from minority is precisely because this polarity is the trunk of the tree from which racism in the United States has branched into its many superficially unique, yet inherently homogenous forms. What I mean in the previous sentence is, first, that Whites are considered a ruler with the responsibility of measuring other groups. Second, one might argue that racism also exists between minorities themselves, and that minority groups measure themselves against one another (superficially unique), but it is clear from historical evidence that racism as we know it today stems from the original formation of the mindset that allowed Whites to distinguish themselves from and elevate themselves upon the backs of the groups they dominated (inherently homogeneous — i.e., sharing the same “cause”).
What does this mean? Since the days of Aristotle, Whites have gone to great lengths to justify not only the belief that they are innately superior to all other groups of the Earth (be it biologically, intellectually, religiously, or otherwise), but also that they should be the ruler that measures those other groups. Gary Okihiro, in his essay “When and Where I Enter” (from Margins and Mainstreams: Asians in American History and Culture, 1994), writes this of the 4th century B.C.E. Greeks:
In his Politics, Aristotle observed that northern Europeans were “full of spirit, but wanting in intelligence and skill,” whereas Asians were “intelligent and inventive,” but lacked spirit and were therefore “always in a state of subjection and slavery.” The Greeks, in contrast, lived between those two groups and thus were both “High-spirited and also intelligent.” (Okihiro, p. 8).
Although Aristotle strategically places his group against Asians and northern Europeans rather than Blacks, the prevalence of his words within the scope of our topic cannot be overstated. It is clear that even in ancient times, Whites saw themselves as the mean, the ideal, the standard, by which other groups should be rated better or worse (incidentally, almost always worse).
Yet it is not enough to say that Whites felt superior to all other groups, since, as Vijay Prashad writes in “A Strange Career of Xenophobia” from his book Everybody Was Kung Fu Fighting (2001), those we label minority groups today also have a long history of what Prashad calls “xenophobia” (i.e., a fear of the “other”). As Prashad keenly observes, before the advent of “race” as we know it, groups might have viewed one another as strange or lesser only to bolster their own pride; but this is where it stopped, at least until European imperialism. That is to say, while all ethnic groups were aware of their differences, and also valued these according to their own fancies, they never used them as justification to dominate or suppress others in the name of a concept they knew not: “race”. In sum, race and racism, as we know them today, were rendered by those very same imperials who sought reason behind their conquests, and this reason meant for them to become the ruler or standard by which all other groups should be measured (Prashad, p. 1-36). The United States, formed by the children of those with this ancient mindset, adopted and implemented it into its own time and space. Hence my opening sentence: minority groups in the United States are not often compared to each other; instead, they are compared to the majority, the ruler: Whites.
One of the measurements Whites used to justify their distance from and superiority over other groups was the measurement of sexual identity — we shall call this “sexualization”. While both Asians and Blacks in the United States suffer from the effects of the same racist White mindset created by the likes of Aristotle, the way in which these groups have been sexualized is in fact quite different — although, as we shall see, the ends of these methods of sexualization are often warped to meet and satisfy the partial need of Whites to consider themselves as a distant and superior group.
First we shall discuss how the racist White mindset morphed and slandered Black sexuality. In “Within the Bowels of the Republic” from his book Iron Cages (2000), Ronald Takaki tells us how Thomas Jefferson viewed Blacks in the sexual realm: “Jefferson’s descriptions of the Negro involved more than the assertion of black intellectual inferiority: They depicted blacks as dominated by their bodies rather than their minds, by their sensations rather than their reflections. They appeared to be a libidinal race” (Takaki, p. 49). According to Takaki, Jefferson believed, “[Blacks] represented the body and the ascendancy of the instinctual life — those volcanic forces of passions he believed whites had to control in republican society” (Takaki, p. 49). Takaki goes on to say that the mixing of white (which meant purity, excellence) with black (which meant absolute filth, inferiority) was a persistent fear within the minds of Whites in the United States before, during, and after Jefferson’s day.
As it happened, this fear was weighted more heavily in the union of a Black man with a White woman, the reason behind this stated unequivocally by Bell Hooks in “Continued Devaluation of Black Womanhood” from her book Ain’t I A Woman (1999). According to Hooks, White supremacists in the United States did not necessarily fear unions between White females and Black males the most, but “as black men were more likely to seek legal sanction through marriage of their relationships with white women, they received the brunt of attacks by white supremacists.” This resulted in White men “brainwashing white women to see black men as savage beasts”, and resorting to brutalities such as lynching and castration to deter Black men as far as possible from their precious White women, the epitome of their pure and excellent race (Hooks, p. 61). From all this, we can conclude that the hypersexualization of Blacks within the racist White mindset owes its existence to the following: First, the need for Whites to distance themselves from Blacks, who comprise an inferior “race” ruled by their passions (see Jefferson’s statements in Takaki’s essay), and second, the need for Whites to find a palpable justification for that distancing — in this case, Black men being portrayed as “savage beasts” (see Bell Hooks). The relationship of the first to the second explains how the hypersexualization of Blacks functions as one strategy for creating a disparity between White (as superior) and Black (as inferior). My personal interpretation of Hooks’ argument, in light of Takaki’s evidence, is that the hypersexualization of Blacks was not actually conspicuous, or even at all extant, but arbitrarily ascribed to Blacks as a mark of their inferiority (i.e., Whites arbitrarily chose to assign hypersexuality to Black men first, since they were ostensibly the most prominent danger to their pure “race”). The matter of assigning hypersexuality to Blacks, then, was not a matter of truth, but convenience; there had to be something, so why not the most obvious? Again, the distancing of Whites from Blacks in terms of sexual identity makes more sense when we consider the idea that the racist White mindset was built upon the foundational metaphor of Whites being the rulers by which other groups are measured. In other words, whatever qualities Blacks possessed, sexual or otherwise, (even if these qualities are products of hyperbole, or just outright lies), Whites did not possess.
A similar arbitrary and slanderous format can be traced within the history of the sexualization of Asians by the racist White mindset. I must be careful in this section of my essay, since Asian sexuality as it appeared to Whites throughout history has been warped as per the latter’s partial needs during certain eras. While Blacks have generally been seen as hypersexual and emasculated, Asians are given a somewhat lengthier range of variation. First, again going all the way back to Aristotle, there existed a paradigm that Asians were the sterile representations of their likewise sterile lands. To draw once more from the words of Okihiro in “When and Where I Enter”, we see that ancient accounts of Asia were “based upon the belief in a generative relationship between the environment and race and culture, [which] enabled an exotic, alienating construction of Asians, whether witnessed or simply imagined” (Okihiro, p. 10). These accounts were at best ambivalent, not to mention ambiguous. For example, Okihiro points out that while some ancient White writers depicted Asian women as “giant, tusked, and tailed” beasts to be slain by Alexander the Great (White man) “because of their obscenity”, others like Marco Polo would remark that these very same women were “delicate and angelic things, and raised gently, and with great delicacy” (Okihiro, p. 10-5). While the first account of Asian women is very much akin to accounts of Black women in the United States as disgusting, sterile beasts, and while the latter account creates an image completely the opposite, both accounts bear much in common with the image of the “Oriental” proposed by Edward Said in his book Orientalism (1979). According to Said, oriental women are depicted as “both eager to be dominated and strikingly exotic”, while at the same time the orient itself is seen as “the mirror image of what is inferior and alien (‘Other’) to the West” (Said 1979). If this means Asians are to be measured by the same ruler that measured Blacks, then Asian women must be either extremely delicate and angelic (super-human) or barbaric and bestial (sub-human); this view alternates according to however Whites want to see them. In any event, they are indubitably the “other” mentioned by Okihiro and Said; “one or the other” might be an alternative way of stating this.
The paradoxical disparity between the previous two accounts translates just as appropriately with regard to Asian men. Okihiro’s “When and Where I Enter” mentions a writer who spoke of Asian men as polygamous and male-chauvinistic (Okihiro, p. 15-6). In order to show contrast, in the same essay we are introduced to a different depiction of them: “’the young Chinese man is so like a large class of European women…I have for an instant been deceived by the resemblance’”, (Okihiro, p. 26). At once we are given two incompatible views of Asian men, one hypersexual (a la Black men), and the other transsexual. Again, the idea that Whites cannot have an equal sheds its influence on this paradox, especially once we read Bill Ong Hing’s essay “The Undesirable Asian” from his book Defining America through Immigration Policy (2004). In this essay, Hing takes a look at some of the laws and legislation passed to rectify and perpetuate the racist White mindset with regard to Asian immigrants in the United States. One of the laws in particular that Hing mentions is the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882. Before this act, only male Chinese “coolies” (unskilled laborers) were allowed into the United States, along with a number of female prostitutes. Once the act was passed, many of the Chinese men in the United States could not bring their women and children from abroad, thus causing them to appear unmanly vis-à-vis White men (applying to the ancient notion of Asian men as transsexual), as well as a threat to their White women. Here again I state my personal interpretation of Hooks’ argument, now in light of Okihiro’s and Hing’s evidence. This time, the erratic sexualization of Asians by Whites was never based on conspicuous, or even at all extant, qualities but on qualities arbitrarily ascribed to Asians as a mark of their “otherness”, and for the racist White mindset, “other” is just as good as “distant” and “inferior”. The fact that Whites volleyed these inconsistent accounts sexualizing Asians back and forth, with little rhyme or (valid) reason, leads us back to our previous point: the ends of these methods of sexualization are often warped to meet and satisfy the partial need of Whites to consider themselves as a distant and superior group. Along with this I repeat: all forms of racism as we know it, no matter how superficially unique, are inherently homogenous, contingent upon the standard that rendered them, the ruler: Whites.
This essay has drawn on a wide amount of scholarship to identify the racist White mindset, birthed by Aristotle (et al.) and put into practice by Jefferson (et al.). It has also shown how, although Blacks and Asians have been sexualized differently by Whites throughout their history in the United States and abroad, this sexualization was based on the partial needs of Whites with regard to the two groups at peculiar times. When Whites needed a way to justify themselves as superior and distant from Blacks, they created within their own kind a fear of hypersexualized, savage men and women. In this same vein, when Whites needed a way to justify themselves as superior and distant from Asians, they created both stagnant women and polygamous men; when this need changed, they created ripe women and transsexual men. Last, this essay has shown that, whatever the case, Whites have always feared a mixing of their pure, excellent “race” with that of any other (because of the former’s distance and superiority), and have used hyperbole and slander (as well as lynching, castration, discrimination, immigration exclusion acts, and so on) to sexualize different groups, negotiating the special necessities of a given juncture. Hence, the sexualization of Asians and Blacks by Whites is based more on convenience than truth. If there was some easier way of keeping Asians and Blacks from staining the majority, the distant and superior, so that those groups could continue to be dominated, permeated, measured against the ruler, then perhaps…well, one can only imagine.
Works Cited
Hing, Bill Ong, and Anthony D. Romero (Foreword). Defining America Through Immigration
Policy. Temple University Press, 2004.
Hooks, Bell. Ain’t I a Woman: Black Women and Feminism. South End Press, 1999.
Okihiro, Gary. Margins and Mainstreams: Asians in American History and Culture. University of
Washington Press, 1994.
Prashad, Vijay. Everybody Was Kung Fu Fighting. Boston: Beacon Press, 2001.
Said, Edward. Orientalism. 1st Vintage Books Ed edition. Vintage, 1979.
Takaki, Ronald. Iron Cages. Revised edition. Oxford University Press, USA, 2000.
Got Damn, I didn’t now that shit would be a big ass wall of text like that. Here it is again, spaced out better ‘n shit:
The Sexualization of Asians and Blacks by Whites: An Etiology of Racism
Dear Reader,
As I mulled over what I should write about for my senior Philosophy thesis, many topics naturally came to mind. Of them, the problem of hypocrisy shined the brightest, mostly because I had often written on “being true” during the course of my academic development. Soon, I came to realize that writing a thesis on such a broad subject was overly ambitious and fraught with countless integral encumbrances, rendering such a project unfeasible.
My next decision was to narrow my focus, and discuss a particular instance of hypocrisy, which I found to be “racism”. I do not hesitate when I say, “Racism is the most important issue in America today.” Our very capacity for racism, I believe, stems from our predilection toward hypocrisy. When I examine myself, I cannot help but notice how I seek to justify what I think and stand for, even if it is ignorance, prejudice, fear, or hatred. Most often, my “justification” serves as a pitiful excuse for my ineptitude, my inconsistency, my insecurity. Observing history, I feel not lonely, but rather crowded in this regard.
I began reading through some of my earlier philosophy papers, along with papers dealing with anthropological and sociological theories of racism. It came as no surprise that a lack of attention has been devoted to exactly how racism came to be. This paper, then, shall be an etiology of racism proper.
I do not intend to offend anyone when I mention “the racist White mindset”. It should be noted that I am specifically talking about racist Whites in history, and surely not the entire race — this would make me a racist, and in turn defeat the purpose of writing an essay on the subject. Many might argue, and rightly so, that Whites are not and have not been the only group capable of racism, both contemporaneously and historically, yet this essay will at least show how the construction of racism can be primarily attributed to them. In other words, while certain people from all walks of life might be considered racist, they owe their ideology to the racist White mindset. What is more, simply because Whites created the racist White mindset does not in any way mean it is exclusive to them. To some extent (perhaps a rather short one), we are all guilty of hypocrisy.
My aim is not to vilify the Whites of antiquity, but to evaluate their racist perceptions (and the consequences of those perceptions) of the two peoples most often pitted against one another in Western society: Asians and Blacks. Innumerable features of those old perceptions remain intact.
My last remark: These days, we can be sure that, thanks to genetics and various other schools, the concept of “race” is obsolete, at least de jure. While I agree with this, and shall explain how the concept was fabricated by men rather than imposed by natural law, I still believe the effects of the concept are indelible, and thus should be considered in all dimensions of relevant discourse.
Thank you very much for your time.
-John Dane
When most people think of Asians and Blacks in the United States, not much comes to mind in terms of commonalities. What is perhaps most obviously common between the two groups is that they share the minority status, which means there must indeed be a majority upon which this status is based — in this case, Whites. Whites have drawn from a wide history of racist stereotypes and ideologies to create a mindset that allows them to distance themselves from, and justify superiority over, these two groups. In this paper, I will focus on how the racist White mindset, regarding the respective sexual identities of Asians and Blacks, intersects with Whites’ racist perceptions of those groups altogether, as well as how this intersection is used to empower and justify White distance and superiority. Further, I will highlight some of the developmental history of this intersection so that the reader may understand its roots. As the reader will see, since Whites have used hyperbole and slander to sexualize different groups according to the necessities of any given juncture, this sexualization is more about convenience than truth.
The reason I decided to begin this essay by distinguishing majority from minority is precisely because this polarity is the trunk of the tree from which racism in the United States has branched into its many superficially unique, yet inherently homogenous forms. What I mean in the previous sentence is, first, that Whites are considered a ruler with the responsibility of measuring other groups. Second, one might argue that racism also exists between minorities themselves, and that minority groups measure themselves against one another (superficially unique), but it is clear from historical evidence that racism as we know it today stems from the original formation of the mindset that allowed Whites to distinguish themselves from and elevate themselves upon the backs of the groups they dominated (inherently homogeneous — i.e., sharing the same “cause”).
What does this mean? Since the days of Aristotle, Whites have gone to great lengths to justify not only the belief that they are innately superior to all other groups of the Earth (be it biologically, intellectually, religiously, or otherwise), but also that they should be the ruler that measures those other groups. Gary Okihiro, in his essay “When and Where I Enter” (from Margins and Mainstreams: Asians in American History and Culture, 1994), writes this of the 4th century B.C.E. Greeks:
In his Politics, Aristotle observed that northern Europeans were “full of spirit, but wanting in intelligence and skill,” whereas Asians were “intelligent and inventive,” but lacked spirit and were therefore “always in a state of subjection and slavery.” The Greeks, in contrast, lived between those two groups and thus were both “High-spirited and also intelligent.” (Okihiro, p. 8).
Although Aristotle strategically places his group against Asians and northern Europeans rather than Blacks, the prevalence of his words within the scope of our topic cannot be overstated. It is clear that even in ancient times, Whites saw themselves as the mean, the ideal, the standard, by which other groups should be rated better or worse (incidentally, almost always worse).
Yet it is not enough to say that Whites felt superior to all other groups, since, as Vijay Prashad writes in “A Strange Career of Xenophobia” from his book Everybody Was Kung Fu Fighting (2001), those we label minority groups today also have a long history of what Prashad calls “xenophobia” (i.e., a fear of the “other”). As Prashad keenly observes, before the advent of “race” as we know it, groups might have viewed one another as strange or lesser only to bolster their own pride; but this is where it stopped, at least until European imperialism. That is to say, while all ethnic groups were aware of their differences, and also valued these according to their own fancies, they never used them as justification to dominate or suppress others in the name of a concept they knew not: “race”. In sum, race and racism, as we know them today, were rendered by those very same imperials who sought reason behind their conquests, and this reason meant for them to become the ruler or standard by which all other groups should be measured (Prashad, p. 1-36). The United States, formed by the children of those with this ancient mindset, adopted and implemented it into its own time and space. Hence my opening sentence: minority groups in the United States are not often compared to each other; instead, they are compared to the majority, the ruler: Whites.
One of the measurements Whites used to justify their distance from and superiority over other groups was the measurement of sexual identity — we shall call this “sexualization”. While both Asians and Blacks in the United States suffer from the effects of the same racist White mindset created by the likes of Aristotle, the way in which these groups have been sexualized is in fact quite different — although, as we shall see, the ends of these methods of sexualization are often warped to meet and satisfy the partial need of Whites to consider themselves as a distant and superior group.
First we shall discuss how the racist White mindset morphed and slandered Black sexuality. In “Within the Bowels of the Republic” from his book Iron Cages (2000), Ronald Takaki tells us how Thomas Jefferson viewed Blacks in the sexual realm: “Jefferson’s descriptions of the Negro involved more than the assertion of black intellectual inferiority: They depicted blacks as dominated by their bodies rather than their minds, by their sensations rather than their reflections. They appeared to be a libidinal race” (Takaki, p. 49). According to Takaki, Jefferson believed, “[Blacks] represented the body and the ascendancy of the instinctual life — those volcanic forces of passions he believed whites had to control in republican society” (Takaki, p. 49). Takaki goes on to say that the mixing of white (which meant purity, excellence) with black (which meant absolute filth, inferiority) was a persistent fear within the minds of Whites in the United States before, during, and after Jefferson’s day.
As it happened, this fear was weighted more heavily in the union of a Black man with a White woman, the reason behind this stated unequivocally by Bell Hooks in “Continued Devaluation of Black Womanhood” from her book Ain’t I A Woman (1999). According to Hooks, White supremacists in the United States did not necessarily fear unions between White females and Black males the most, but “as black men were more likely to seek legal sanction through marriage of their relationships with white women, they received the brunt of attacks by white supremacists.” This resulted in White men “brainwashing white women to see black men as savage beasts”, and resorting to brutalities such as lynching and castration to deter Black men as far as possible from their precious White women, the epitome of their pure and excellent race (Hooks, p. 61). From all this, we can conclude that the hypersexualization of Blacks within the racist White mindset owes its existence to the following: First, the need for Whites to distance themselves from Blacks, who comprise an inferior “race” ruled by their passions (see Jefferson’s statements in Takaki’s essay), and second, the need for Whites to find a palpable justification for that distancing — in this case, Black men being portrayed as “savage beasts” (see Bell Hooks). The relationship of the first to the second explains how the hypersexualization of Blacks functions as one strategy for creating a disparity between White (as superior) and Black (as inferior). My personal interpretation of Hooks’ argument, in light of Takaki’s evidence, is that the hypersexualization of Blacks was not actually conspicuous, or even at all extant, but arbitrarily ascribed to Blacks as a mark of their inferiority (i.e., Whites arbitrarily chose to assign hypersexuality to Black men first, since they were ostensibly the most prominent danger to their pure “race”). The matter of assigning hypersexuality to Blacks, then, was not a matter of truth, but convenience; there had to be something, so why not the most obvious? Again, the distancing of Whites from Blacks in terms of sexual identity makes more sense when we consider the idea that the racist White mindset was built upon the foundational metaphor of Whites being the rulers by which other groups are measured. In other words, whatever qualities Blacks possessed, sexual or otherwise, (even if these qualities are products of hyperbole, or just outright lies), Whites did not possess.
A similar arbitrary and slanderous format can be traced within the history of the sexualization of Asians by the racist White mindset. I must be careful in this section of my essay, since Asian sexuality as it appeared to Whites throughout history has been warped as per the latter’s partial needs during certain eras. While Blacks have generally been seen as hypersexual and emasculated, Asians are given a somewhat lengthier range of variation. First, again going all the way back to Aristotle, there existed a paradigm that Asians were the sterile representations of their likewise sterile lands. To draw once more from the words of Okihiro in “When and Where I Enter”, we see that ancient accounts of Asia were “based upon the belief in a generative relationship between the environment and race and culture, [which] enabled an exotic, alienating construction of Asians, whether witnessed or simply imagined” (Okihiro, p. 10). These accounts were at best ambivalent, not to mention ambiguous. For example, Okihiro points out that while some ancient White writers depicted Asian women as “giant, tusked, and tailed” beasts to be slain by Alexander the Great (White man) “because of their obscenity”, others like Marco Polo would remark that these very same women were “delicate and angelic things, and raised gently, and with great delicacy” (Okihiro, p. 10-5). While the first account of Asian women is very much akin to accounts of Black women in the United States as disgusting, sterile beasts, and while the latter account creates an image completely the opposite, both accounts bear much in common with the image of the “Oriental” proposed by Edward Said in his book Orientalism (1979). According to Said, oriental women are depicted as “both eager to be dominated and strikingly exotic”, while at the same time the orient itself is seen as “the mirror image of what is inferior and alien (‘Other’) to the West” (Said 1979). If this means Asians are to be measured by the same ruler that measured Blacks, then Asian women must be either extremely delicate and angelic (super-human) or barbaric and bestial (sub-human); this view alternates according to however Whites want to see them. In any event, they are indubitably the “other” mentioned by Okihiro and Said; “one or the other” might be an alternative way of stating this.
The paradoxical disparity between the previous two accounts translates just as appropriately with regard to Asian men. Okihiro’s “When and Where I Enter” mentions a writer who spoke of Asian men as polygamous and male-chauvinistic (Okihiro, p. 15-6). In order to show contrast, in the same essay we are introduced to a different depiction of them: “’the young Chinese man is so like a large class of European women…I have for an instant been deceived by the resemblance’”, (Okihiro, p. 26). At once we are given two incompatible views of Asian men, one hypersexual (a la Black men), and the other transsexual. Again, the idea that Whites cannot have an equal sheds its influence on this paradox, especially once we read Bill Ong Hing’s essay “The Undesirable Asian” from his book Defining America through Immigration Policy (2004). In this essay, Hing takes a look at some of the laws and legislation passed to rectify and perpetuate the racist White mindset with regard to Asian immigrants in the United States. One of the laws in particular that Hing mentions is the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882. Before this act, only male Chinese “coolies” (unskilled laborers) were allowed into the United States, along with a number of female prostitutes. Once the act was passed, many of the Chinese men in the United States could not bring their women and children from abroad, thus causing them to appear unmanly vis-à-vis White men (applying to the ancient notion of Asian men as transsexual), as well as a threat to their White women. Here again I state my personal interpretation of Hooks’ argument, now in light of Okihiro’s and Hing’s evidence. This time, the erratic sexualization of Asians by Whites was never based on conspicuous, or even at all extant, qualities but on qualities arbitrarily ascribed to Asians as a mark of their “otherness”, and for the racist White mindset, “other” is just as good as “distant” and “inferior”. The fact that Whites volleyed these inconsistent accounts sexualizing Asians back and forth, with little rhyme or (valid) reason, leads us back to our previous point: the ends of these methods of sexualization are often warped to meet and satisfy the partial need of Whites to consider themselves as a distant and superior group. Along with this I repeat: all forms of racism as we know it, no matter how superficially unique, are inherently homogenous, contingent upon the standard that rendered them, the ruler: Whites.
This essay has drawn on a wide amount of scholarship to identify the racist White mindset, birthed by Aristotle (et al.) and put into practice by Jefferson (et al.). It has also shown how, although Blacks and Asians have been sexualized differently by Whites throughout their history in the United States and abroad, this sexualization was based on the partial needs of Whites with regard to the two groups at peculiar times. When Whites needed a way to justify themselves as superior and distant from Blacks, they created within their own kind a fear of hypersexualized, savage men and women. In this same vein, when Whites needed a way to justify themselves as superior and distant from Asians, they created both stagnant women and polygamous men; when this need changed, they created ripe women and transsexual men. Last, this essay has shown that, whatever the case, Whites have always feared a mixing of their pure, excellent “race” with that of any other (because of the former’s distance and superiority), and have used hyperbole and slander (as well as lynching, castration, discrimination, immigration exclusion acts, and so on) to sexualize different groups, negotiating the special necessities of a given juncture. Hence, the sexualization of Asians and Blacks by Whites is based more on convenience than truth. If there was some easier way of keeping Asians and Blacks from staining the majority, the distant and superior, so that those groups could continue to be dominated, permeated, measured against the ruler, then perhaps…well, one can only imagine.
Works Cited
Hing, Bill Ong, and Anthony D. Romero (Foreword). Defining America Through Immigration
Policy. Temple University Press, 2004.
Hooks, Bell. Ain’t I a Woman: Black Women and Feminism. South End Press, 1999.
Okihiro, Gary. Margins and Mainstreams: Asians in American History and Culture. University of
Washington Press, 1994.
Prashad, Vijay. Everybody Was Kung Fu Fighting. Boston: Beacon Press, 2001.
Said, Edward. Orientalism. 1st Vintage Books Ed edition. Vintage, 1979.
Takaki, Ronald. Iron Cages. Revised edition. Oxford University Press, USA, 2000.
Aaron,
You say you’re hard because you’ve been in these ahrd conditions in your little ghettos. Everybody is as rich as Steve Jobs, gangster as Al Capone, knows more about guns than John Browning and sold more powder than Johnson and Johnson (thank you, Biggie) on the internet.
You think shit’s so hard living in these conditions. Blacks always like to say white girls are always after them for their supposedly big dicks.
Your lives in the shit aren’t that hard. You wake up when you want, which is most likely after noon. You most likely aren’t working if you’re too busy out banging, robbing, thugging and mugging. Since you aren’t working you’ll be on some sort of welfare I’m sure. I most likely live with your mom or some other family still.
That’s hard, huh?
Try getting up every day at 6 a.m. Then you drive for however long to get to work. You work. Then you drive again. Get home, pay bills and high taxes because niggers like you can’t get off your lazy asses. You have a house, a car and other things and work towards goals.
You’ve grown up and you’re out to be your own person, not who you think you should be because it’s what advertising or some website says you should be. You don’t sit around and blame others for your misfortunes. It’s not your race. It’s not the white man’s fault - it’s yours.
Learn from your mistakes; don’t blame others for them - get with the fucking program.
White Mothafucka,
Thank you for being an example, a poster child. You are the *exact* mothafucka I was talking about. Another schizophrenic, hypocritical, pedantic mothafucka trying to tell us who the fuck we are.
Tough talk over the net, homie. Lemme see you roll up to one of these “little ghettos” and say some shit like that. Matter of fact, lemme see you, or any mothafucka sittin’ here givin’ you nods, survive ONE DAY in ANY hood, since you obviously think you’re THE Mothafucka, and being a minority in this country is so got damned easy. Fuck what you heard, nigga. Fuck all them rap songs, all the mothafuckin “Pursuit of Happyness” movies you’ve seen. I ain’t even sayin’ niggas gonna beat cho ass, since that ain’t even the point. Niggas just gonna show you some shit. We’ve seen your side of the world — shit, we can’t avoid it. But you have no clue about ours, you choose to ignore it and pretend you have nothing obligations whatsoever. Until you’ve lived this shit, you don’t have a quarter a got damned idea what it’s like. It’s like you live in a totally different country or some shit. You wanna get all anthropological and start saying shit about black people, well mothafucka, be productive and do some got damn firsthand research instead of sitting on your ass, talkin’ that gang of shit.
Coming on here boasting about how you live a typical white capitalist American lifestyle of pure got damned ignorance and apathy isn’t going to get you far, either. I honestly don’t know what your point was with that post, since niggas on this website ain’t nothing like you describe, and you *knew* we would light that ass up. I don’t need your lame, glass ceiling companies, biased movies and television programs, manipulative and opportunistic news media, self-edifying history books, and la cosa nostra government to figure out who the fuck I am.
Fuck outta here, dawg.
-John Dane
god damn nigga know become the a university environment right here. niggas is slapping each other with fucking essays and shit.
Yo, NiggaKnow niggas, sorry if I’m makin this shit too JD’ish. This is ya’ll niggas website and I don’t mean to sabotage it with my shit. I’m just glad I found some likeminded, intelligent niggas who can feel this shit like I do.
The internet is a wonderful tool.
ayo Dane..
You cool nigga..but next time..use an email nigga..you know how much a nigga had to scroll on his phone just to get to the bottom?!?..
You the homie though nigga…when Tom Berenger catches Obama with that missle sized sniper bullet..ima get you in there son…well written kid…
Agreed. Always worth reading.
John Dane:
How are you gonna say Aristole was racist if he was saying Greeks were better than Northern Europeans? That’s ethnocentrism, not racism. I agree with you though when you say racism was invented by white people, I just don’t think you’re right to say it started with Aristotle, who was all about being Greek more than anything (You could find similar quotes from Ethiopians saying Greeks and other Africans are weak of mind)
Ben,
You gotta consider nationalism as well dude. History hasn’t failed to provide examples of peoples within a particular nation-state to attach themselves to an arbitrary national “race.”
I would go further to argue the premise that racism was invented by white people. For instance, the early Islamic empires had a long history of Arab centric rule.
But I will admit that in a modern context racism was primarily influenced by white societies.
THE EXPLANATION is simple -it’s the outcome of a sick mind. To understand sickness & health -relative terms like cold & hot- you have to understand the natural steps in the creative process, which are: thought (idea), followed by word, followed by deed. Creation is what you think, say & do.
Mohandas K. Gandhi once said that “When what you think, say & do are all the same then you are in harmony.”
Ergo: a sick mind is out of harmony & can only be healed through the conscious human act of forgiveness, which is the portal to loving kindness, well-being, a state of peace & ease & simply being happy. Sick people are rarely happy.
I think John Dane just set the record for longest comment on Niggaknow. Did anyone read it?
John,
The point of the post was that you act like living in your little world is so hard. Maybe it is? I wouldn’t know.
As little as I really know about your world; you know as little about white living. You think we’re sitting around counting our money we made off the nigger.
It’s a hell of a lot harder to live the ‘American dream” than it is to sit around on your lazy nigger ass collecting welfare and robbing people.
By the way, I would say this shit to your faces or anybody else. Do you think you sound tougher than me on the net? You look just as pussy, motherfucker. Talk about your guns all you want, fact is that most blacks don’t have a clue about guns or how to use them. I’d survive all day in your shitty cities and hoods. I’d like to see you motherfuckers learn thing one about guns, learn how to use them and actually get some practice. Think you can do El Presidente in less than 5 seconds? By the way, you can’t shoot very straight holding the gun sideways, nigga.
White Guy,
You don’t know shit about white America either. White America ain’t hard.
It isn’t hard to have a good public school handed to you. It isn’t hard to have public safety handed to you. It isn’t hard to have your first car handed to you. It isn’t hard to have college handed to you. And it isn’t hard to have a job handed to you.
Little achievement is required in white America. Everything is given to you.
And don’t give me your stupid ass “self-made man” bullshit. Even if you were a deviation from what I just described, which you aren’t, you’d still be just that: a deviation from the NORM.
i think i gained 10 IQ points in the first few comments…
then lost like 5 of those 10 point just by reading (((or attempting to read))) Soulja’s comment…
then Dane comes in for the kill and i’m boosted back up the IQ ladder PLUS 5!!!
THANKS!!!
anyway…
i’m not here to defend a whole god damned fucking race…
i’ve come in contact with many racist bitches in general…
too many to count…
and i’m not trying to keep track of their pigment…
it’s all bullshit if you ask me.
no one actually KNOWS what it’s like to live in another skin…
someone will always be biased in their opinion…
those are the weak muthafukkers.
i mean, if you can’t see past the cardboard of your very own mind box…WHY even pretend like you give a shit?
just go on with your ignorant self…
you aren’t alone…
there are a TON of ignoramuses out there that will entertain your stupidity.
i’m really tired of hearing “you have it easy” ..blah blah fucking blah
what do you know about it???
shit, MAYBE i DO live on easy street…
but who are YOU to belittle what i have?
what’s NORMAL these days anyhow???
like who are you comparing your “hard” life to?
the muthafukkin president?
living a HARD LIFE is all mental if you ask me…
i could live without material shit.
if there’s one fucking thing in this dang world that i HATE the most…
it’s a grown ass individual that wants to bitch about how hard he had it when he was 12 and NOW he’s all fucked up BECAUSE of it.
just be grateful that you made it through…DAMN
all i’m saying is that “YOU’RE GROWN DUDE”…
no respectful person would take a messed up excuse like “i was raped when i was 12″ or “my daddy left when i was 3″ or “my mama beat me with a broom when i was 7″…
that’s UNFORTUNATE, but i don’t have sympathy for you NOW because you an adult…
ACT LIKE IT!!!
this is why i continue to come back to this site…
a bunch of grown up people…
with some fucking GREAT input…
and no one’s bitching about how hard it was on “difficult boulevard” while they were growing up
you gentlemen are a NEW breed!!!
For sweet fucks sake. whinge whinge fucking whinge. The white man is not holding fuckin anyone back. If a rasict cunt knocks you back from a job, fuck him, work somewhere else.
What the fuck is wrong with white people moving into a community? Niggas be crying about how white people dont want to associate with black people and you know a hoods bad when the white people move out!!!! Which is it you confused fuck? Do you want them there or not?!?!?! And I put this to yall, if I like sitting outside and having a beer, and I live in Harlem where the fuck else am I gunna do it other than the stoop. Like only black people stoop sit. Like they invented it. Thats like me saying I hate black people who play baseball or eat.
Christ, the Irish were just as persecuted as the blacks a while ago (dont believe me check it out) and they werent even a different colour. Do you hear the Irish bitchin bout how the wasps are holding them back, not giving them jobs etc etc etc. No!!! Why? they fuckin got on with it.
Next time you have a few Kay sitting in the sky rocket forget the rimz, grillz and ice (sorry ize), buy a suit and impress a motherfucker.
Niggas forget that every other motherfucker got their own problems.
BTW I hate stripey shirt fuckers too as well as coffee drinkers (been in a starbucks? you are one of these people)as well as people who tell me how hard they got it and how they held back with $24,000 worth of jewellery, an escalade etc etc while im sitting in a shirt and sweats fixing cars.
Thank you, Fuck Off.
Stev0,
That’s a damn cop-out. It’s some race card bullshit is all it is. Go tell the black dude on Wall Street this shit. Go tell Stan O’ Neil he had everything handed to him because he’s not living in the hood. Go tell this shit to Bill Cosby that it’s all about race. Those black guys will tell you to get off your lazy, excuse having nigger ass as well.
It’s a choice you’re making to sit and bitch and whine like a little pussy that you are in the situation you are in. If you don’t like it, grow some balls and admit you’re the reason for being who you are. Maybe if you do that you’ll be able to overcome these ‘racial’ problems.
While I’m at it, I enjoy this site because it allows two races of people to sit down and actually hash out their differences - something that doesn’t usually get done. Blacks sit and bitch about whitey, whitey sits around and bitches about the niggas - we’re making progress just by talking about this shit and getting it off our chests.
I understand how niggas feel when they see some stripe shirt college white kid that does have shit handed to him stealing black attitude, clothing, you name it. White kids like that imitating hand gang signs? It pisses me off and I don’t blame you one bit. It’s like niggas drinking Hennessy, Cristal, Dom Perignon and Remy Martin. Just because you’re drinking fine spirites doesn’t make you high-class, wealthy or mean you even know what makes Cognac or Champagne what they are. What’s next, Bushmills and Knappogue Castle? Chateau Latour? You can take the nigga out the hood but can’t take the hood out the nigga. Stick with the Mickey’s 40s and Colt 45.
White Guy:
“I understand how niggas feel when they see some stripe shirt college white kid that does have shit handed to him stealing black attitude, clothing, you name it. White kids like that imitating hand gang signs? It pisses me off and I don’t blame you one bit. It’s like niggas drinking Hennessy, Cristal, Dom Perignon and Remy Martin. Just because you’re drinking fine spirites doesn’t make you high-class, wealthy or mean you even know what makes Cognac or Champagne what they are. What’s next, Bushmills and Knappogue Castle? Chateau Latour? You can take the nigga out the hood but can’t take the hood out the nigga. Stick with the Mickey’s 40s and Colt 45.”
lol…@ the liqueur knowledge
all of that ‘knowledge’ you speak of (((fine wines and spirits))) can be learned anywhere…
i worked at the biggest liquor store in Canada for over 7 years…
we attended fine wine tastings as well as product knowledge courses…
which of course are available ANYWHERE
these dudes up in here are BOOK SMARTS…
fuck a liqueur…
these dudes are talking on a different level
anyway, isn’t that something like an old white dude that has a ‘57 chevy parked in his garage and dishes out $6546516484 to have it refurbished to it’s natural condition???
just because he HAS the car to drive…
doesn’t mean that he knows shit about it *shrug*
“just because he HAS the car to drive…
doesn’t mean that he knows shit about it”
Exactly.
some of the problems in black america are hard to fix.but first you need strong leaders.al sharpton&jessy jackson are not it.thay have no clue how to fix a 70% illagitamicey rate.60% drop out rate. 14&15 year old girls having babys. fathers not takeing care of there children.but al&jessy know how to go after someone for saying the “n”word.thay have no clue how to fix the real problems.but this makes them feal like thay still important&have power.i’m white and i have a picture of martin luther king.on my wall.he is one of the greatest men who ever lived.DR,KING said we need fathers in the black comunitey.so stand up and do what’s right.Quit blaming evrey thing on something else and look at the real problem.sticks&stones
LOL my nigga. The white nigga i fuck with is the man. That nigga keeps it real. He still does all that white bmx shit, but i cant knock him for that, cause thats his shit. Shout our to my nigga whiteman. Threads all day nigga. Cool it
-Joe G
yo that paper is real talk, shit been going on forever and still is. Big up to this site for being mad funny and even letting defensive ass white guilt motherfuckers whine and bitch
shit, as a white motherfucker who is born and fucking raised in Harlem, i want to rob these bitches who act like they are around here and try and eye that shit like they know it. fuck that, they been here for 2 years, think they are hard and shit. next thing they know the iphone they rocked is gone, they got a fucking shiner, and they are crying like a faggot bitch on the steps of morningside park or 126th and lenox. damn, i hate white people. i mean, i hate all you darkness motherfuckers too, but I FUCKING HATE CRACKER ASS NIGGAS. YOU DON”T HOLD YOUR IPHONE OUT WHEN YOU SEE A MOTHER FUCKING DUO ABOUT TO ROB YOUR ASS! IF YOU WERE SMART YOU WOULD RUN OR KNUCKLE THE FUCK UP. GO BACK TO IOWA BITCHES!
oh, and this site brings the hilarity. and yes, i am a white mother fucker that shines like ice and doesn’t crumble like a fucking saltine or act black, and has lived in harlem my whole life. so let me see, 21 years…yeah, i really hate those faggots who come in and act like this place is theres. this is real talk too, not some bullshit. i hate fake crackers and niggas. i only like real mother fuckers, period.
ya’ll niggas is haters. what the fuck. these is just peeople tryna live you know. i dont complain when i see mad niggas in wall street suits or fuckin shopping at jcrew or looking at art at the met. fuck everyone on this fucking site.
that bruce willis mufucka is a white ass republican cracka
I’m no nigga. But Bruce Willis rocks!
We got a black President. Dont you think its time you put your obviously great talents to better use?
Have you considered the number of boring,gay and un-cultured African Americans who are raised in poor ares with other African Americans
hahahahahahahahaha, damn the people on this site are fuckin retarded as shit
im not apologizing for fuckin being white hell no, you can suck my dick i have black friends mexican friends and i live next to the ghetto, and i listen to hip hop, i rap, i mc,i write graff, and i bboy, i love how pissed off black people get when they see a white boy doin hip hop that shit makes my day, fact is a black guy could come and cuss me out beat the shit outta me and id still wake up the next day and keep doin what im doin,
and look at all these apologetic white people at the bottom, fuckin stand up for your race, and not even your race, your fuckin dignity thee black kids seem to think your under them, your equal to them, and there equal to you, its afuckin skin color you faggots, and dont think “i love black people” i love hip hop, hip hop isnt even about fuckin race any more and all you black muhfuckers can eat a dick if you think it is, incase you havnt noticed, every musical artform has evolved to accept all races, i know a shitload of black and mexican punks and metalheads, those cultures both started out white, especially punk which was about the white man specifically in the beginning, you faggots got nuthin better to do but to bitch about how everybody sucks besides you and your race, that shit makes me laugh because it will NEVER work, it just lets you faggots say what you would like to say but you would never say in real life, you as pussy as everybody else on the internet, come kick my ass, kick my teeth in, idc, ill wake up the next day, right a rap, bomb a wall, bboy, and chill with my multicolored/cultured friends
sincerely, me
ps. eat a dick, faggots
I’m behind you 100%. I’m sick of when some white NYU art student asshole comes up to me like “I live in Brooklyn! I’m so fucking hip AND hard!” and then try to look down upon me cuz I’m from Jersey. It’s like listen motherfucker, remember how Brooklyn used to be in the 80s and 90s? Newark is still like that! And you know what? I don’t see any god damn white mother fuckers anywhere except Seton Hall law students maybe. Brooklyn is not what it used to be. I’m like how did all those black motherfuckers let all these damn whites take over? You guys used to have that shit locked down. I remember in the 90s you’d never meet a white mother fucker with a apartment in Bedstuy, know what I mean? You let Brooklyn turn soft and New York hip-hop is fucking down the drain too with faggots like Jim Jones or I donno some of these other southern nut huggers. Right now there are more fucking Rock bands in Brooklyn than rappers! How did you let this happen man?! The worst part is none of those damn rock bands even ROCK they mostly just whiny shit annoying the piss out of me. The other thing is if you white and you live in a black area you don’t get excited about black friends cuz most of your friends will be by default. In fact sometimes you long to meet some chill white motherfuckers and just listen to some rock music, drink from a beer keg, smoke a bong, and just white-out for a while, only problem is most of the whites coming into NYC these days are rich ass art student mother fuckers with skin tight pants, I mean my pants are kinda tight but these dudes pants are tight like chicks pants and they always weight about 100 pounds from eating vegan and never having to work a day of labor, its like get some pants that actually let your nuts breath and hit the gym for a couple months and we maybe can chill and rock out or something you god damn hipster douchebags.
Lemme get my word in on this shit. First off, yes im white. But i aint here to claim im hard or some shit like that. Dont get me wrong, i aint no leave it to beaver lookin goody motherfuckef but i try to stay out of trouble, nahmean?
But now on to what i wanted to say in the first place. I play guitar. Im in a rock band. I play real heavy shit, reminiscent of 80s thrash metal bands. All i wanna say is im tired as fuck of bein labeled as the type 2 white guy, the rocker that tries too hard. I was doing this shit long before that was the “in” thing to do with the suburban mainstream white faggots (white i may be, but i aint one of them assholes). I been doin shit my way for years, then all these emo cocksuckers come along with they bands and panic! at the disco sounding shit, and i get stuck in their category for being in a band? i dont think so motherfucker. Shit pisses me off.
Bruce Willis is awesome.
I am not sure if you hate him or not…you don’t want to throw him off of a roof? I guess that’s a good thing.
Shit I agree with this whole thing.